aerospace: (starscream 4)
Starscream ([personal profile] aerospace) wrote2011-12-30 12:08 pm

[Video]

[This takes place directly after this post.]

[Starscream appears not to be in his own room, but obviously still has his journal. And Jetfire is somewhere in the background.]

JETFIRE MURDERED HIS ... well whatever this fuzzy thing is. Still he gorged it and scattered the pieces.

[He holds up an eye.]

See? Jetfire, do you feel no remorse for your actions?

It sees what you have done. When the night comes will you be able to withstand the beating of the heart under the floorboards?
angleofscience: (neutral - totally thinking science)

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[personal profile] angleofscience 2011-12-30 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
... Starscream, honestly. These things are less than drones, not even alive in the same sense as organic species are.

[Jetfire pauses to trail his fingers over the scattered pieces, ignoring Starscream holding up the eye, putting the other eye rather pointedly closer to Starscream.]

And it had no heart.

[Have a flat stare, when he finally looks up, Starscream. Also, who was he to talk about remorse?]
70ftandcounting: (Default)

[personal profile] 70ftandcounting 2011-12-30 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Wh-why would he do that?!
angleofscience: (no means no Starscream)

/threadjack

[personal profile] angleofscience 2011-12-30 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
...

[Well, this was awkward.]

Starscream is exaggerating. I merely picked it apart. It wasn't alive using any definition of the word at all.

I... mm, apologize for any distress he caused you.

[Jetfire'll just take a moment to toss a narrow stare over his shoulder at Starscream.]
70ftandcounting: (Default)

[personal profile] 70ftandcounting 2011-12-30 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
P-picked it apart?!?

That's terrible! why?! Why would you do something like that?!
angleofscience: (agnostic scientist - disregard no angles)

[personal profile] angleofscience 2011-12-30 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
[He'll just... rub his faceplates for a moment.]

It's not alive. It possesses none of the parts that, for example, make you, you, and keep your body going.

It further possesses no mechanoid parts to be counted as alive... or even a proper artifical intelligence.

[A pause. How to continue?]

You learn things naturally, growing as you do so. This thing can't do that. Further, your body, as well as mine, have ways to repair itself, to keep it going within reasonable bounds. This thing have nothing like that, because it's not alive in any fashion at all.
70ftandcounting: (Default)

[personal profile] 70ftandcounting 2011-12-31 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
But you ripped it open!

It spoke to me. I heard it.
angleofscience: (dubious scientist - er really?)

[personal profile] angleofscience 2011-12-31 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
... Yes, it has some few set phrases it can learn. Those are however, pre-programmed... that is, those are things put in there by those who built it. It cannot learn infinitely, and won't understand everything you tell it.

[How to even explain this?]

With supplies, I could build something infinitely more intelligent than one of these things, that could speak back to you, and it would, still, not be alive.
70ftandcounting: (Default)

[personal profile] 70ftandcounting 2012-01-01 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
How would you feel if someone bigger than you ripped you open because they didn't think you were alive?!

[HARUMPH]
angleofscience: (determined - gimmie my dataz slaggit)

[personal profile] angleofscience 2012-01-01 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't just open it up the first thing I did. I scanned it first... hm, a way to get an idea of its layout, capabilities and what's inside without opening it up.

[Slight frown.]

If I did not have that, I certainly wouldn't have opened this one up already, but would have conducted more non-invasive reasearch. Basically, if I had any doubt it might be alive, I wouldn't have picked it apart as soon as I did it.

[Slag it all, Starscream. :|]
70ftandcounting: (Default)

[personal profile] 70ftandcounting 2012-01-04 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
[You are still getting one dirty look, Jetfire.]

What if it felt it? You don't know for sure.
angleofscience: (talking - science is relevant)

[personal profile] angleofscience 2012-01-04 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That, I can certainly assure you that it neither could have or can feel. It has no pathways, circuitry or other modes for relaying sensory information... er.

[Another pause. He couldn't assume she'd understand that.]

That is, it has no ways to get any of the similar information you get from your skin or other senses. It can't feel.

[While there were beings that were still alive that lacked certain senses, a complete absense of any sort of way of sensing one's surroundings, and thus interacting with it, was another point against it.]

[identity profile] trollscream.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Because he's a horrible, horrible person. He lives on the suffering of smaller creatures. To him they are just tools for science.

Don't listen to his lies. Listen to me instead.
70ftandcounting: (Default)

[personal profile] 70ftandcounting 2011-12-30 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Can...can you rescue it?!

[identity profile] trollscream.livejournal.com 2011-12-30 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't worry. I'll save any others that fall into his grasp. I wont let another die to his hands!
70ftandcounting: (Default)

[personal profile] 70ftandcounting 2011-12-31 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, thank you!
angleofscience: (said something Starscream?)

/have another one

[personal profile] angleofscience 2011-12-30 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Starscream.

[What in the name of Cybertron are you doing?]
heavyweaponsbot: (We are not amused)

[personal profile] heavyweaponsbot 2011-12-30 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
... You have nothing better to do with your time, do you.